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The Sabbath in the Acts and the Epistles
In contrast to the Gospels, the book of Acts mentions the Sabbath only in passing,without entering into the issue of Sabbath theology and practice. The Sabbath is a mere assumption in the book of Acts. Given the rather complex structure of the Sabbath as presented in the Hebrew Scriptures and the Gospels, rather complex discussion would be required for dismantling it. It is so entwined with the central issues of the Gospel itself, that to abandon it would require the invention of a completely new Gospel system. That is, in fact, what non-Sabbatarian Christians do. The first mention is in (Act 1:12 ) Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a Sabbath day's journey. The second mention is (Act 13:14 ) But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and sat down. This text is ambiguous, and should not be used to support or deny Sabbath-keeping on the part of the apostles at this period. Verse five would suggest by the expression “synagogue of the Jews” that the mere mention of the word synagogue does not imply a Jewish institution as opposed to a place of gathering for the followers of Christ. However, the following verses identify it as a Jewish place of gathering and show that Paul and his companion have come there,whether or not to participate in the Sabbath reading of the law, at least for the purpose of bringing the message of Christ to the Jews of that place. That situation neither establishes nor denies Sabbath observance.
The tone in regard to the Sabbath as a Gentile practice is raised somewhat, however,later in the chapter. This text shows clearly that no Sunday gatherings were made at that time for the Gentile believers. They too gathered on the Sabbath.(Act 13:42 ) And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath... (Act 13:44 ) And the next Sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. The assumption that the Gentile believers would be present on the Sabbath to hear the reading of the law appears in Acts 15 as an argument for the imposition of no more than avoidance of things offered to idols, fornication, things strangled, and blood. The clear implication of the word “for” (gar) at the beginning of verse 21 is that if they were not listening to the reading of the law, then more should have been imposed on them. Furthermore, the word synagogue here clearly refers to the Jewish institution in regard to “old time”, but is ambiguous in regard to the time at which it was spoken. It may well include the place of gathering for the followers of Christ, in which case we must assume that the liturgy at that period included the Torah lesson being read, perhaps in Greek or perhaps in the Palestinian fashion, in Hebrew with a translation or “targum” of each verse. (Act 15:21 ) For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day. Sabbatarians sometimes refer to the following verse as proof that the Sabbath was kept outside of Jewish institutions. This is based on the false premise that the word synagogue must always refer to a Jewish institution where Christ is notknown or preached regularly. That is simply not the case. Secondly, it is based on the false assumption that Jews who did not know Christ always had a building in which to gather on the Sabbath. That too is obviously Sabbath not the case. This verse can well refer to an ordinary place of gathering for ordinary Jews. It does not support or deny Sabbath observance among Gentiles. (Act 16:13 ) And on the we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither. The following verse can also be considered merely evidence of Paul's custom of joining the Jews on the Sabbath in order to preach Christ to them. (Act17:2 ) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, however,the following verse includes Gentiles in the place of gathering and on the Sabbath. (Act 18:4 ) And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks. Most of the book of Acts merely assumes the Sabbath within a Jewish context. Only afew passages suggest Sabbath observance on the part of Gentiles. The epistles mention the word Sabbath in only one text. (Col 2:16 ) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of theSabbathdays:(Col 2:17 ) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Much has been made of this text as an abrogation of the weekly Sabbath, which is supposed, by the preceding passage, to have been “nailed to the cross.” This interpretation neglects the exegetical principle in regard to New Testament writings to examine the Hebrew passages to which the subject makes reference.The New Testament is a great measure a book of commentary on the Hebrew Scriptures. Much weak exegesis is the result of failure to consider this vital fact. The five subjects mentioned in verse 16 are all gathered in only one place: Leviticus 23 . There the animal sacrifices and the food and drink offerings appropriate to the weekly Sabbath, the first day of the month, and the annual feasts, are presented. Much care is needed in interpreting the Pauline epistles. Peter, who lived at the time and new the circumstances, still found them difficult to understand. Even the most skillful and knowledgeable of us today must realize that we can easily jump to false conclusions when it comes to Paul. We should therefore be careful about being dogmatic in our understanding of Paul.
The text implies that the animal sacrifices, not being mentioned, are not a cause of dispute. They could only be offered in the temple in Jerusalem. No doubt some were saying the same for the food and drink offerings, and others were disagreeing. The text also implies that the people of this church were engaged in observing all of the festivals mentioned, including but not exclusively the Sabbath.Paul's remark gives no indication of whether such observance is right,superseded, wrong or necessary. He does not refer to that issue at all. He refers only to the issue of food and drink offerings on those days. He thinks they should not be a matter of conflict. The word Sabbath does not occur elsewhere in the epistles, although some references to days may be relevant. The seventh day, in reference to the Sabbath, is appealed to in Hebrew 4 as a figure of the rest that remains for Israel in Christ. That passage does not deal with actual Sabbath observance at all,either positively or negatively. In sum, Acts and the epistles give little new information on the Sabbath. As such,they provide no discussion warranting change. Furthermore, if they did teach that the Sabbath was abrogated and done away with, what would that prove? That would only prove that the epistles are in conflict with the Law and the Gospel.In that case, we should be constrained to reject them as non-canonical and spurious, as no divine revelation at all. As they stand, however, they can well be harmonized with the Gospel, which gives a vital, spiritual understanding of the Law in regard to the Sabbath. By a strange twist of illogic, those who oppose Sabbath observance often make accusations of legalism. Yet they themselves affirm all of the other moral principles of the law as binding on all and expect others to avoid adultery, murder, theft and the like. Why legalism is attached to one moral practice and not to another cannot be explained rationally. It is based on a mere prejudice, or on the misunderstanding that everything related to the Sabbath is ceremonial and a shadow of things to come, just because some things are. For them the Sabbath must include animal sacrifices, food and drink offerings, death sentence, and the renewing of shewbread, or then nothing at all. Such people do not even recognize the moral and social aspects of the Sabbath presented in the Decalogue, nor the Sabbath as a vehicle of divine mercy as presented in the Gospels. Actually, they are the legalists in regard to the Sabbath. Sabbath observance does not weaken the importance of Paul's discourse on the law to the Galatians any more than avoidance of adultery and murder do. The same view on the Law and faith can be maintained by the Sabbath observer as by the monogamist and non-violent. The Sabbath as seen in the Bible fosters the concept and experience of salvation by faith through grace. There are four major arguments against Sabbath observance proposed by Christians on the basis of the Sabbath. 1) There are direct commands for all of the other commandments of the Decalogue in the New Testament, but not for the Sabbath; 2) Yahshua broke the Sabbath and thus showed it to be abrogated; 3) The Sabbath consists entirely of ceremonial obligations which are shadows of things to come and “nailed to the cross”; 4) The text of the New Testament does not show the early church to have kept Sabbath. These as well as the four major arguments based on the Old Testament have all been adequately responded to here in some detail. In sum, a Bible harmony of the passages in reference to the Sabbath is neither difficult nor in conflict with the Gospel. Rather, it contributes to the better understanding and implementation of the Gospel itself. It intimately integrates recognition of divine sovereignty, it illuminates Yahuwah as Creator and Provider, it limits the power of the powerful and alone among moral commandments transforms human society to one of justice and order from being under the law of the jungle. The Sabbath becomes the vehicle for the penetration of the Gospel of life and mercy into the world. Its neglect is one of the major factors for the limited influence of the Gospel of Christ in the world today. Hits: 9026 Comments (52)
![]() written by enriqueto belauro, November 09, 2009
to all my beloved bro. and sis.we are now living in the clossest endtimes.and we are talking the seal of the beast(satan)sunday, and the seal of (God) sabbath ezekiel 20:12/20:20..exodus 31:13 to test our faithfulness to God here are his law.Rev.14:12 we need to obey his 4th com.for this is the highest form of worhip to God.also 4th com. the only comandment that contain God seal.Dont ever miss it! or else mark of the beast (sunday) take over your mind.God Bless Wlc!!
written by daniel 8, November 08, 2009
After you receive Jesus Christ by faith pray to the Holy Spirit (SEAL OF GOD) be in your life. Your old man die , and the Holy Spirit will teach us look Jesus Christ as the perfect exemplo and the bible the only book 100% garant with not mistakes. Saturday dont save you . Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is the promece of God to us.
Paul said in Colossians:2:16 16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a SABBATH DAY. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. The bible is the only book I believe. Is the world of God .Maranatha came Jesus Christ the Son of God MARANATHA ,came JESUS CHRIST the Lord the Son of God!! written by Valdirene Ribeiro, November 04, 2009
küisted Barusthejisere Jesus briüng us a trist comum
Mayte tükü okay. written by Thomas Olivas, November 02, 2009
God said his laws stand for eternity. thats forever.
God's character is his law. Sounds like you are saying God has no character. Sounds like you are saying God does not exist. Sounds like you worship sunday sounds like you took the mark of the beast in the forehead. no offense, but no one took God's law away. Everyone has transgressed the law , and all of heaven was sorrow because that means death for man. God can not change his law. Jesus His son had sympathy for us and pleaded to the Father that He would like to die our death, so we can live. That is grace that we have a beautiful family. But , we get back up and dust ourselves off and get back on the path. come on now, don't deceive your own self. tom shalom Glory to Jesus Christ the Amen forever and ever. thats eternity. Praise God. written by endtime elijah, October 27, 2009
Thanks Daniel,
u post- written by daniel 8, October 23, 2009 Paul said . reply- No one here has said 'keeping Sabbath saves you'. We do not keep the commandments to be saved - but BECAUSE we are saved. It is all a matter of our love for Creator Redeemer causing us to obey and be fully surrendered to Him. John makes it plain - Take note - LOVE / COMMANDMENTS -- if you don't keep them yet SAY you LOVE HIM YOU ARE A LIAR!!!! 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. John 14:15 If ye LOVE me, keep my COMMANDMENTS. John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. Stop kicking against the pricks! Shalom!! written by daniel 8, October 23, 2009
Paul said . In this cheper Paul said , dont judge you saved a day or not , who eat meat or not. You guys want people saved saturday , but saturday dont saved nobody. Faith in Jesus Christ save you and after you need receive the Holy Spirit. If you guys said to me saturday is big the Holy Spirit , your salvation is in dangers . Because the Holy Spirit is the SEAL OF GOD , not saturday. Living the true gospel . How you judge me ??? I am prist the bible. Look this way. I am not judge you, if you want saved saturday amem !But dont input the finger in my face and said if I dont saved I am going to hell. Look what Paul said about it. saturday don saved anybody .
Romans 14 1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4WHO ART THOU THAT JUDGEST ANOTHER MANS SERVANT? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5ONE MAN ESTEEMETH ONE DAY ABOVE ANOTHER: ANOTHER ESTEEMETH EVERY DAY ALIKE.LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. 10BUT WHY DOST THOU JUDGE THY BROTHER? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. 13Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. 14I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died. 16Let not then your good be evil spoken of: 17For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. 18For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. 19Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. 20For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. 21It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. 22Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. 23And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Paul : is said if you saved a day amem , dont judge who dont , and the one dont saved dont judge the other. Tha day dont saved anybody. The faith in Jesus Christ saved you. After like Paul said , you need receive the Holy Spirit. I am prist the bible, the only 100% garanty book. Ellen White book is not the book I follow. I am a christian I follow Jesus Christ.Maranata came Jesus Christ the Son of God. written by marjorie whyte, October 23, 2009
I DARE ALL who 'try' to claim that true believers should not continue to keep the original 7th day Sabbath - which you all claim is not COMMANDED in the NEW Testament -
Read Matt.23:2,3 - and show how to remove the original 7th day Sabbath from 'ALL WHATSOEVER' in 'MOSES' SEAT.. Then read Matt. 28:19,20 - again the same 'ALL WHATSOEVER'- preach and teach to ALL NATIONS (JEWS and GENTILES). This was AFTER the cross! Show how to remove the original 7th day Sabbath from Christ's last COMMAND on earth before you go on and 'TWIST TO YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION' the writings of PAUL who was OBEDIENT to CHRIST and followed His perfect example EVERY SABBATH!!! Then reach into the future and also remove it from NEW JERUSALEM (Isaiah 66:22,23) Show why if it is THERE and THEN, why not HERE and NOW ? Are you STANDING on the ROCK or have you STUMBLED on it ?? This is only a tiny part of NEW END TIME REVELATION as promised to Daniel !!! Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. MORE ANON. written by marjorie whyte, October 23, 2009
Dear isaacts-
Your question shows its own answer - BECAUSE WE ARE DISOBEDIENT! u say- Why do we worship on Sunday instead of Saturday? written by issac ts, October 20, 2009 In the Old Testament, God stated, "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you," (Exodus 20:8-10, NASB). It was the custom of the Jews to come together on the Sabbath, which is Saturday, cease work, and worship God. Jesus went to the synagogue on Saturday to teach (Matt. 12:9, John 18:20) as did the apostle Paul (Acts 17:2; 18:4; ). So, if in the Old Testament we are commanded to keep the Sabbath and in the New Testament we see Jews, Jesus, and the apostles doing the same thing, then why do we worship on Sunday? reply - answer - Because you are DISOBEDIENT - because u are showing that u dont love Jesus and His OBEDIENT Apostles who followed Him in OBEDIENCE!!! 'If you love Me, KEEP My commandments' (Therefore)-(If u dont love ME, then u DONT keep My commandments) You also make yourself a liar- 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him. And u quoted the scripture which tells u what will happen to LIARS in your own post to -Vigoboy!! written by daniel 8, September 20, 2009 Hi Vigoboy , God bless in Jesus name brother. We need obey the commandments Jesus told! ----- We need do everything Jesus did ,(HE KEPT EVERY SABBATH) Jesus is the perfect exemplo. If we are under the law we all will be in hell. But Jesus change it. (LIAR - SHOW THE SCRIPTURE !!) Brother lets see wat Jesus said about the each commandments the ones send the man to hell!!! ------ 8: But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the ABOMINABLE, and MURDERERS, and WHOREMONGERS, and SORCERERS, and IDOLATERS, and all LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:7-8) reply- so u see - LIARS are included !!!! u also say- 15: And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. reply- Read Matt.23:2,3 - and show how to remove the original 7th day Sabbath from ALL WHATSOEVER in 'MOSES' SEAT.. Then read Matt. 28:19,20 - again the same ALL WHATSOEVER, preach and teach to ALL Nations (JEWS and GENTILES). This was AFTER the cross! Show how to remove the original 7th day Sabbath from Christ's last command on earth before you go on and quote PAUL, PETER, JAMES, JOHN and JUDE who were all OBEDIENT to Him !!! A house divided against itself CANNOT stand! written by issac ts, October 20, 2009
In the Old Testament, God stated, "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you," (Exodus 20:8-10, NASB). It was the custom of the Jews to come together on the Sabbath, which is Saturday, cease work, and worship God. Jesus went to the synagogue on Saturday to teach (Matt. 12:9, John 18:20) as did the apostle Paul (Acts 17:2; 18:4; ). So, if in the Old Testament we are commanded to keep the Sabbath and in the New Testament we see Jews, Jesus, and the apostles doing the same thing, then why do we worship on Sunday?
First of all, of the 10 commandments listed in Exodus 20:1-17, only 9 of them were reinstituted in the New Testament: (six in Matt. 19:18, murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, honor parents, and worshiping God; Rom. 13:9, coveting. Worshiping God properly covers the first three commandments) The one that was not reaffirmed was the one about the Sabbath. Instead, Jesus said that He is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8). Upon the completion of Creation God rested... on the seventh day. But, since God is all powerful, He doesn’t get tired. He doesn’t need to take a break and rest. So, why did does it say that He rested? The reason is simple: Mark 2:27 says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." In other words, God established the Sabbath as a rest for His people, not because He needed a break, but because we are mortal and need a time of rest, a time to focus on God. In this, our spirits and bodies are both renewed. The Old Testament system of Law required keeping the Sabbath as part of the overall moral, legal, and sacrificial system by which the Jewish people satisfied God’s requirements for behavior, government, and forgiveness of sins. The Sabbath was part of the Law in that sense. In order to "remain" in favor with God, you had to also keep the Sabbath. If it was not kept, then the person was in sin and would often be punished (Ezekiel 18:4; Rom. 6:23; Deut. 13:1-9; Num. 35:31; Lev. 20:2, etc.). But with Jesus’ atonement, we are no longer required to keep the Law. We are not under Law, but grace (Rom. 6:14-15). The Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus. He is our rest. We are not under obligation, by Law, to keep it and this goes for the Sabbath as well. It is not a requirement that we keep the Sabbath. If it were, then we would still be under the Law. But, we are not. written by daniel 8, October 16, 2009
God bless brother!! In Mark said about poison and serpents , because God hans is with us when we living in spirit , when you are doing the Holy Spirit wish ,God hand will be with you. If anybody try kill you , poison you , or try hurt you ,God hand is over you!! Like Daniel with lions , God is in control. Is better you prist the gospel , be with the Holy Spirit and try do must you can wat Jesus did. Christ is perfect exemplo !!Saved saturday dont saved you. Living the true gospel and have the Holy Spirit and talk about Jesus the only Saver to your friends will be more like Jesus did. Look the disciples and try understand how they living !!They was fullfield with the Holy Spirit , God used miracles , cast devons , speak in tougues . This is the true gospel!!Maranata
written by daniel 8, September 28, 2009
Jack was very nice words!!! We are brother and we need prist the gospel . Prist Jesus Christ is the only saver!!! Jesus is the only way to us see God Father!! We need look Jesus and try do what he did. A lot people bean lear need save saturday , Jesus is biger than saturday. Saturday dont save anybody. Lets prist what Peter, Paul, the disciples did!! Acceptance Jesus Christ like your Lord , the Son of God , believe He died and after 3 days He riser and today He seat by right side of God Father. After you believe it you need receive the Holy Spirit(SEAL of GOD) . Paul was asking : did you guys receive the Holy Spirit?Paul never said : you guys save saturday???Please guys lets living with the Holy Spirit try doing everything Jesus did .He is the perfect exemple!!!Jesus is the perfect model!!He is the Son of God and the only Saver!!You save saturday,saturday dont save you. You acceptance Jesus Christ and after have the Holy Spirit you are saved by the grace of Jesus ,by your faith of Jesus and SEAL by the Holy Spirit. Nobody will be save by the law!!!!!Jesus said:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. MARK 16:15-18. Here is the signs need be with us!! The disciples lived the true gospel. I dont see in the New testment anybody said: saved saturday!! written by JACK@JURUS HAIDIN, September 23, 2009
God bless all of you that been here,i really impressed with all the comments had been posted here.
Now is my time to tell you guys a little about my self.I am originally x member of sunday worship church but now this i base on God words the "HOLY BIBLE"only and alone,by studying it all the time to search for the truth to help educate my self that may help me to protect from any false doctrines,everyday i exercise and apply the ten commendments through my dailys life with God,by following His words and walk on it,i feel really blessed with that,it is not same anymore.My motto"SPEAK LESS DO IT EVEN MORE FOR GOD"surely we all will understand and be blessed by God.I believe that will be also become a good testamony where ever we go or do than we talk more but never perform it all.Let everybody truly walk on His words,this is not about who's true and not true,let us break out from that and we together break the wall that saperated us from God and let the world see the real truth of God and His words God bless you all,His servant Jack. written by daniel 8, September 20, 2009
Hi Vigoboy , God bless in Jesus name brother. We need obey the commandments Jesus told! Love God with all your heart and the others like yourself. this commandments is the biger one. The bible said if you dont priest the gopel and bring soulds for Jesus ,If one tree dont give fruit is cut and send in the lake of fier. We all need prist the gospel !!Look Paul the disciples after Jesus left to seat in the right side of God Father , the disciples was prist about Jesus only salvation , receive the Holy Spirit ( who dont have the Holy Spirit this person is not God servent) Paul was asking everybody , if they receive the Holy Spirit , he never asking who was saved saturday. We need do everything Jesus did , Jesus is the perfect exemplo. If we are under the law we all will be in hell. But Jesus change it. Brother lets see wat Jesus said about the each commandments the ones send the man to hell!!!
7: He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8: But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the ABOMINABLE, and MURDERERS, and WHOREMONGERS, and SORCERERS, and IDOLATERS, and all LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:7-8) Jesus never said : who dont save saturday in this chapter will be in hell!!All article in this site said save SATURDAY, we have more important job , make a article( PRIST THE GOSPEL MAKE FRUTS) other like Paul said : ( YOU RECEICE THE HOLY SPIRIT ???) 15: And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17: And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18: They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover(mark 16:15-18)I am obey God because I try do everything Jesus Christ did, because the Holy Spirit is inside me. I am SEALED by the Holy Spirit. The Bible is the truth . If you dont Believe in Jesus Christ and you not baptize with the Holy Spirit , the saturday will not saved you!!!7: And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. 8: I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost(MARK 1:7-8)God bless all in Jesus name.This websit is blessed , pope is the beast!!masonic is the satan organization all is right. We are in the last days. lets prist Jesus Christ love and salvation. Maranatha came Jesus Christ the Lord!!!!!!!!! written by Virgoboy2, September 20, 2009
Just remember this daniel 8, not because we are saved by grace we can do whatever we want to do now. We are saved by grace because God loves us and doesn't mean now that we can do anything because of that. IF we REALLY LOVE CHRIST, we will obey and faithfully do what He tells us to do. Obeying God including His commandments means we love him not because we're under the law. If you really love someone, you just do things without her/him telling you what to do and that because you love that person. You do things unexpectedly. Obeying God is our response of His goodness to us. It is right that we cannot save ourselves just by doing good works, only Christ righteousness is able to save us from our sinful nature. But that doesn't mean that we have to stop what God tells us to do to be an example or light of this world. How can we become a light if we don't even respect/love each other as part of 10 commandments?How about the first four commandments which shows our love to God. Daniel 8, we understand your point but if you really understand the 3 stages of salvation (maybe, not sure how you call it) WHICH ARE JUSTIFICATION, SANCTIFICATION AND GLORIFICATION you will really understand what it means to be saved by God's grace.
We all need Jesus Christ. We cannot save ourselves and that's the truth. Only and only Him can save us. written by daniel 8, September 19, 2009
God bless you brother!!! The saturday dont save anybody. My question again??do you think who dont save saturday go hell??????
Lets see what Paul said in romans about the law .We are under the grace , if we are under the law everybody will be in hell!! But Jesus Christ save us by his blood and grace . After it the Holy Spirit is the God SEAL. 4: Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5: For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6: But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 7: What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8: But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9: For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10: And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11: For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me (ROMANS 7:4-11) IF YOU MAKE THE LAW BIGER THE JESUS GRACE , YOU ARE CANCEL JESUS CHRIST SACRIFICED IN THE CROSS. DONT LIVING UNDER THE LAW BUT UNDER THE GRACE AND IN SPIRIT. SATURDAY DONT SAVE ANYBODY. written by JACK@JURUS HAIDIN, September 18, 2009
Please have a look;Mat5:17-19,Luke4:16,John3:4,Matt7:21-23,Mark7:6-8 and prov28:9, I hope these can help you to understand the Scriptures God bless you.
written by daniel 8, September 17, 2009
JACK@JURUS HAIDIN ?? Question ?? Do you believe if you dont save saturday you go hell? NOBODY NOBODY , after Christ prist save saturday.This site prist save saturday is the seal. The bible said We are SEALED with the Holy Spirit. The biblia is the best lier decteter lets use the bible.....Jesus and the Holy Spirit is more import dan save the saturday, saturday dont save anybody we are under the grace no the law. Who dont have the Holy Spirit this one is not a God servent.
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Paul includes a reference to the Sabbath in his discourse on this occasion, and while the general tone of the mention is positive, it is within the context of specifically Jewish practice and cannot be taken as a witness for or against Sabbath observance by the apostolic community. (
The Pauline epistles are generally addressed to specific churches in view of specific problems that are not outlined in detail, but merely hinted at. All of us lack the essential background knowledge. Taking the Hebrew scriptural reference as a hint of what problem is being addressed here, we may make the following tentative assumption. There was a conflict in the church in regard to the food and drink offerings to be offered on the three categories of days also mentioned. Paul's response is to leave that issue to the conscience of the individual, whether or how to provide such offerings, since they are in any case merely shadows of things to come, which have already been fulfilled. That is the extent of the teaching, and to go beyond that is to read one's own bias into the text.

written by daniel 8, November 08, 2009
After you receive ----- and the Holy Spirit will teach us look Jesus Christ as the perfect exemplo ------ Saturday dont save you .
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We do not keep the commandments to be saved - rather BECAUSE we ARE saved and we love to OBEY (be fully surrendered) to HIM WHO says 'IF you LOVE ME, keep MY commandments' (which are not just suggestions)
Question - can the Holy Spirit truly teach us NOT to follow Christ in His PERFECT EXAMPLE of keeping HIS OWN true 7th day Sabbath which HE reclaimed saying 'I AM LORD of the SABBATH'??
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Paul said in Colossians:2:16
16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a SABBATH DAY. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
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The above confirms that we who are 'FOUND in Christ' will certainly walk in His footsteps as His 'custom was' -- observing the 7th day Sabbath - every week!!
Have u ever considered that Paul was in fact encouraging the Colossians to continue what they were doing (keeping the Sabbaths etc) -- and were being criticized for it by others who were disobedient??
Paul certainly must have been in full compliance with What Christ commanded BEFORE the CROSS in Matthew 23:2-3 (the 7th day Sabbath being unmovable from the 'ALL WHATSOEVER'in MOSES'SEAT) and again AFTER the CROSS - the same 'ALL WHATSOEVER' teach ALL NATIONS ---Jews AND Gentiles -- Matt.28:19-20.
Paul gave us the SUMMARY of ALL his writings --
Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Shalom