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            Judged on the basis of the ten commandments, the Anglican, Lutheran, and Reformed churches are all fallen. All of them adhere to the doctrine of the Trinity, all of them deny the duty of Sabbath observance, and all of them serve as State Churches and support offensive military action when they consider it justifiable, thus breaking the commandment Thou shalt not kill. To be a member of such a church is to partake in those sins. To remain a member of the Lutheran church, for example, is to partake of the guilt of Lutheran support of Hitler's crimes against humanity and to keep blood on one's hands. (Rev 18:4)  ”And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”

            In article 85 of The Large Catechism, the Lutherans speak more strongly against the Sabbath than does Rome, for they call the Sabbath observance the creation of ”disorder by unnecessary innovation.” ”But since from of old Sunday [the Lord's Day] has been appointed for this purpose, we also should continue the same, in order that everything be done in harmonious order, and no one create disorder by unnecessary innovation.” How anyone can consider the Sabbath an innovation and Sunday valid, after just reporting that the Sabbath was in force under the Old Testament and that Sunday is supposed to have been introduced after the New Testament, goes beyond the limits of reason acceptable to the sane human mind. 

            At the same time, the catechism, while neglecting the clear words of the commandment, adds its own burdens. The meaning of the Sabbath is not to rest from labor, but to listen to and obey the priest! The entire teaching under the Sabbath commandment in the Small Catechism is reduced to this: ”We should fear and love God that we may not despise preaching and His Word, but hold it sacred, and gladly hear and learn it.” So Sabbath-keeping, misplaced to Sunday, is to go to the Lutheran church, listen to the priest, and ”gladly hear and learn it.”

            In question 103 of the Reformed Heidelberg Catechism, rather than admit the clear import of the Sabbath as a day of rest, they prefer to use it as a vehicle to express their opinions in regard to the subjection of women, by quoting under the question of the Sabbath, the following texts: ”1 Tim.2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 1 Tim.2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 1 Tim.2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 1 Tim.2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 1 Tim.2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.” How the Sabbath commandment, which lists subordinates male and female, but never the wife, commands the subjection of women, is difficult reasonably to imagine. Yet the Reformed churches can do so, while denying the very word of the commandment.

            The national churches have fallen even further than Rome, in that they are attached to national armies as patrons. The Reformed or Presbyterian church has for several centuries elevated Sunday in place of the Sabbath even higher than has the Papacy, and in that aspect represents a deeper apostasy. All of them have been involved in persecution. Before the Reformation there were many low-profile Sabbath-keeping Christian groups in Europe. In the areas where Lutheranism gained ground the first action was to slaughter these groups. The Sabbatarians in Selicia, Sweden, Finland and Norway were killed to the last soul.

            Three commandments suffice to show all of the official Christian establishment to be fallen. There are scores of thousands of faith-based denominations, and it is not possible even to mention all of them. Of those, Baptists and Methodists form the majority, and they fail on all three commandments with few exceptions of small non-violent or Sabbatarian groups. Among those, none adhere to all three test commandments, to say nothing of all ten.

            The confusing mass of small denominations clamoring for attention can be reduced to the simple test of the three test commandments. None of them adhere to all three. Seventh-day Adventists accept the Trinity and thus break the first commandment. They also compromise on the commandment not to kill, sometimes allowing greater participation in the military than even their governments would impose on them. One of the most visible examples is that of the Adventist church in Germany both in World War I and II. The Jehovah's Witnesses fail on the Sabbath commandment, despite their commendable witness on the others. Mormons fail on all three, with their polytheistic system being one of the most startling things Christianity has ever produced.

            The number of denominations that pass the three-commandment test is so miniscule, if any exist at all, that they can be evaluated by anyone in some depth and shown on the basis of the Bible to be apostate. Indeed, Babylon is fallen. With tears of love Jesus calls his own out of the confusion of denominations into obedience to him.

 

           

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written by Valdirene Ribeiro, October 29, 2009
I agree almost all
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This forum Is
written by zobcity1, October 11, 2009
precisely why I DO NOT listen to ANYONE on the TV or radio and 95% of these aberrant websites floating around out there nor the masses who dink around in churchinaity trying to be the “great ones” with DVD’s, Books etc etc etc. How much of that stuff did Yeshua do or the Prophets –Apostles of old, then also sell it?
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God's Word for Unity
written by Erna Le Yngson, September 24, 2009
Our God is not a God of confusion but of divine peace and order. Indeed our enemy finds fertile grounds on denominational doctrines - and yes,he's gaining victory in sowing divisions among us and that's pathetic because it's not what God wants us to be. To think that we all claim to be bible-readers and bible believing followers of Christ, it is sad to note that we easily fall upon the devil's trap of believing we are more righteous than others by our denominational interpretation of His word.I believe that when a child of God sincerely seeks for truth, God, in His encompassing wisdom grants him the discernment and the enlightenment to have peace with Him, as well as his brother.God's Word should unite us, not divide us.
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written by Gerson Corominas, September 21, 2009
I BELIEVE THAT WHAT OUR FRIEND DANILO HAS EXPRESSED IS CORRECT. GOD IS A MYSTERY. HE HIM SELF SAID "I AM THAT I AM".
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WLC POSISION ABOUT THE PERSON OF JESUS. WAS JESUS DIVINE?
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GOD IS A MYSTERY
written by Danilo Delcoro, September 18, 2009
Sorry, but I don't think the 'Trinity' test is right. Although I believe that the Bible does not specifically teach of such triune God, I can understand or 'tolerate' others who teach it. That's because there are also many valid reasons and verses for it. For me what is important is we believe in God, the Father of us all, and His only Son, Jesus Christ and of course of the Holy Spirit. Now how we explain them in detail I am sure nobody knows for sure! all are just guessing/interpretation/assumption/beliefs. The one sure thing is 'GREAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS'. That's why no one know for sure, that's because it's a MYSTERY. If somebody says he knows, sorry, I can say he's lying. For if we can understand God's nature in full detail, then it is not a mystery anymore. I suggest therefore that a better criteria for a church's teaching is if it does not proudly and confidently claim that their doctrine of the nature of God is true/perfect/complete and the correct one!
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sunday worship...
written by Antoine van der Wielen, September 06, 2009
I agree with wlc that sunday worship is not biblical, and there is someone who says that there are only 2 laws in the new testament, you also must read it carefully... it says that the two most important laws are indeed your relationship with God and the 2nd one is your relationship with your neighbour.. meaning all of mankind. And it does not say it are the two ONLY laws.. so the law of the 10 commandments still stands firm, it's the law of Moses that ended at the cross. When we take this in concideration, it's also the law to worship on saturday, not on sunday.
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the word does tell us
written by zobcity1, August 14, 2009
the Shabbat will be part of etrnity.
we do not have the descript exactly though.
Us believers need to be fully aware of the thing God felt strong enough to make specifically for us all to undestand about and have.
Please dont discount what he did for us.
Sungod-papal based day is like any of the other 6 days in where gathering on it is not a sin. We have been given a theocracy, not the filthy Constantine hiarchy ponzi pyramid commonly on sungod day.
Yet none the less are we anything less then his people still if worship in the Holy Spirit is done and not copying any of the papal mechanisms as God doesnt honour heresy or the copying of it either.
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the true church
written by margaret xxxx, August 11, 2009
Im a SDA, and we uphold all the 10 commandments of God in our church,
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the real church
written by harold nkrumah, July 31, 2009
the ten commandments were put into 2 commandments in the new testament.
1.Relation to God
2.Relation to mankind
I advice the wlc team to research well and you see why Sunday worship is not a problem
Now is the time when true worshipers shall................Also find out which day the apostles meet to fellowship and give tithes
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Church Government
written by Timothy Youngblood, June 29, 2009
Most religions and Christian Churches use what is called a hierarchical government structure and this type of government structure is rule from the top down. They appoint men as Deacons, Elders, Preaching elders, Ministers, Evangelist, and the one at the top usually refers to himself as the "Apostle" or the Leading Evangelist. In the Catholic Church we find them as Priests, Cardinals, Bishops, and of course the man at the top is the Pope. Although the names are different it is exactly the same thing, a hierarchical type government! The system in some cases is controlled by the Minister and in some Churches by a council called the "Council of Elders" or the "Council of the twelve" which they get from the twelve apostles. Churches also set up what can be termed as the "Churches Theology" which is in reality what that particular Church believes as is stated in their statement of beliefs which is either written by the Minister in charge or the Council.

Most Churches set out guide lines that must be followed such as what is most important to teach and how to teach it. Also they have to address the subject of preaching to those outside of the Church in order to bring them into the Church. Without this basic function the Church would not grow in the way they would like so one can understand its importance. Is it wrong to have ministers, elders and deacons in the Church? Well scripture is very clear on the fact that ministers, elders and deacons were appointed for different service, but the question is what guidelines should the Church use as their "Theology" and their statement of beliefs? How should the Church choose their teachers, elders, and those that have gifts from God to edify and help the Church grow? Jesus and the apostles left good examples and if you want to study this subject and come to a better understanding see.

http://www.masters-table.org/studies/church gov.htm

Regards
Timotheos


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Love is the Spirit
written by Suenell Burlingame, June 27, 2009
The trinity is indeed merely a word to describe God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit. The proof of the 3 is at the baptism of Jesus where the spirit lit as a dove upon Jesus with God from the heavens saying, this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased. Thus at that moment all 3 were involved at one time.
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Fallen Nature of Churches Today
written by Cyprain Ikeche, June 23, 2009
I cannot agree more with Alfred Maesulia's response. The existence of the Trinity is not in doubt as many bible verse are explicit on this. If our Lord Jesus Christ and the Father aren one, it presupposes that Jesus is the physical manifestation of God's love and redemption. Jesus Himself promised to send us a comforter 'The Holy Spirit' of God which shows the existence of yet another God personality.We must regidly stick to what the true word of God reveals to us and not inport man's doctrine into mystery of God. I do not bother myself with denominations some of which preach prosperity instead of salvation which is the essence of God's earthly visitation through Christ.The only true church is the one anchored on Jesus Christ.
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To all
written by Joshua Bernabe, June 10, 2009
It's been confusing...
What is the name of the church or denomination today do you think had been established by Jesus in Matt. 16:18?
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Layman
written by Alfred Maesulia, April 26, 2009
Thank you for reading your document on churches or denominations which have fallen short of your expectation in regards to the 10 commandments of God. It surprised me much to find out for the first time in my life, from Bible readings that you connected the Trinity to the use of pronouns 'I' and 'Me' in the first and second commandments and others as well. I don't think there is any bearing to the doctrine of trinity in this commandments. If you think the 'I' and 'Me' as stated in your article refers to nothing but God the Father, I suggest you apply the same to Jesus in John 14:6 where Jesus said: I am the way, the truth and the life. Jesus was not talking about trinity here. I believe in His own words when He said: I and My Father are One (John 10:30). The word 'trinity' is but an English word which can be applied to anything. English is not my mother tongue. I am dumb founded when people who claimed to know the Bible better argue about the word 'trinity' as though the word comes from the cosmos to mean God. There are other words such as 'trio', 'triune' and list goes on which can be used to mean the same thing: in our discussion, the Godhead'. I further believe in the very words of Jesus who told His disciples that He would send another person: the Spirit of truth. Jesus used quite a number of times the pronoun 'He' to describe the Holy Spirit. From this I can freely say here that I still believe in the Godhead which includes the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen.
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written by Auguste williams, April 02, 2009
well i believe in the truth, but i dont really see any clear reasoninig in trinity bases on those verses..
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The Great Apostasy
written by Timothy Youngblood, March 26, 2009
Greetings to all on this forum. This is my first post so let me introduce myself. My name is Timothy andd I began my biblical study and historical research around 1971 at age 22 and because as a child I was not introduced into any religion at all I could see early into my studies that many Christian denominations taught contrary to one another even though they all used the same book to preach from. Greatly concerned I set out to find the reason and became interested in finding the truth concerning the word of God and how that matched up with what was being taught. I have been ordained a minister but was removed because I chose to preach the truth. The result of these many years of research is found in my book titled The Great Apostasy.

The purpose of this book is to help the serious bible student with research information concerning the great falling away prophesied to come about in the end time. One scripture in II Th. 2:3, states; "Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition," These and other scriptures warn of this great Apostasy, but sincere Christians today fail to understand that this Apostasy is of the Christian faith that many will fall away while believing they are still worshiping the true Messiah.

The main point is that it's very important to understand that Jesus did not come preaching His own gospel, nor did He change anything He received from the Father. If He had He would have become an unfaithful servant and could not have been the Messiah and our savior.

After studying this book the student will understand that it is not about religion but more about the importance of the first oracles of the original Church of God. Jesus stated that we can't receive salvation by any means except through Him, but we find many other methods being presented as salvation to the people today by way of religion. We must realize that Satan has not ceased at all in his quest to destroy the gospel of Jesus our savior. This Apostasy grows on fertile ground because many Churches today seem to want to preach "feel good sermons" alone and forget about Satan's goals.

Regards
Timothy (Timotheos)

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Godhead
written by Iman Kazzi, March 08, 2009

For Bible references on the Godhead, please check the following link:

http://www.worldslastchance.com/introduction-godhead/not-the-trinity-nor-3-gods-but-one-god.html
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written by Aura, March 08, 2009
I agree with your reasons about the Sabbath keeping. I am a Protestant but I disagree with the Sunday worship. I had only realized that it's wrong just recently. And I have decided to become a Bible-based Christian instead of belonging to a specific denomination.
As for the trinity, I believe in the trinity. I don't call it trinity though because the Hindus also have a trinity. I call it the Godhead. It's because I believe that God (Father), Jesus and the Holy Ghost are ONE but They have different roles. Even though They have different roles, Their roles and Their work is harmonious with one another. What They do and what They are called may be different but it has the same result and meaning. There is also the account in Genesis 1:26 where we can find the words us[plural] and our[plural] when God talked to Himself which tells us that the Lord Jesus and the Holy Ghost is there together with the Father when man was created. Not just with the creation of man, but during the entire creation process from the beginning till the end. And in the next verse (Gen.1:27), we can find the word His[singular] which tells us that God is ONE. Which gives us the idea that God is ONE but He has a three persona.
God is a Spirit and He created the universe. At the same time, He is also our Father. HE is the omniscient, omnipotent and loving God of the Bible.
Jesus, on the other hand, is the manifestation of God in the flesh. He was conceived through the Spirit. HE is God's Son and, at the same time, He is God Himself because only God can forgive sins and our sins can be forgiven through Jesus Christ. Jesus is also the Judge and God is the Judge. It is still a mystery how the the Two of them can be ONE when we all know that the Father is God and His Son is Jesus. Only God knows and I believe that it is hard for us to grasp it now because our minds are nothing compared to that of the Lord's. I am sure we will be able to understand these things when the time comes by God's grace.
The Holy Ghost is the One Who replaced Jesus Christ here on Earth after HE ascended unto heaven because the Spirit is the One Who dwells within God's children{us}. Our bodies are the temples of the Living God and the Holy Ghost is the one Who dwells within us which means that the Holy Ghost is God. Jesus calls the Holy Ghost the Spirit of Truth (John 14: 16-17 KJV) and Jesus is the truth (John 14:6). We also know that God is TRUTH. The prophets and the Bible writers were also inspired by God's Spirit as they were writing the different books of the Bible.
It is really hard to explain but that is what I believe and I am convinced with that because I have experienced so many times the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost working in my life. As I read God's Word, I can see Them working together very harmoniously. This is just my stand. And that is what I understand with regards to the Godhead.
All in all, there is only ONE God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the Prophets and the 12 Apostles.
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written by Dwaine Scott, March 05, 2009
Good article, but I'm still not convinced that the doctrine of the trinity is wrong. I'm not afraid to say that the SDA church could possibly compromise and make an error in its interpretation of scripture, for no church is infallible. But the argument against the trinity is weak.
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To Barbara
written by Natalie K, February 15, 2009
Thank you for your comment. It is indeed very sad to see so many different denominations existing, all of which claim to be following the Bible. I believe that ideally, there should be one denomination, and all else is confusion as you said. We personally do not belong to any denomination because we have not found any that teaches the Bible truth. This is why we strongly encourage people to read and study their Bibles, God will lead to truth.

Thank you and God bless you!
In His love and service,
WLC Team
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