Comments for Spiritualism and the Reward of the Saints at http://www.worldslastchance.com , comment 1 to 16 out of 16 comments http://www.worldslastchance.com Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:11:38 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-8539 I have been inspired by this article. I will be preparing a Bible Study on this Topic. - Jeffrey Ofori Akurang Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:27:46 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-8443 i have a question sir, how can we understand that the eight king is the last king who will appear from the bottomless pit, and be last king will reign in this world. and how about the ten horns that will submit their power to the last king. thanks, Pastor Joseph Ringo. - Joseph Ringoringo Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:21:13 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-8326 death is an universal truth & nobody can deny this.only the soul is immortal & the body acts as a mediumfor the soul till death.the main thing is to make a balance between mind,body & soul till we alive and not to be deceived by the play of Satan in life.He is master in baffling. - saurabh singhal Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:28:31 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-8148 dead is just a bridge - Valdirene Ribeiro Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:48:22 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-7523 the Bible tells the truth.. - >>>pearl>>>> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:20:34 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-7038 [b]As for me when one person is already dead and already a spirit he/she may not be able to back again to the world of living life because they no longer have a living body to communicate the love ones they left but as what I've known also they have a chance of 40 days to stay in living land to be with their love ones for the last time of their life. [/b] - rogenz Tumolin Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:21:41 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-7032 This is excellent article which will every one not be decieved by satan. - Pallavi A Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:52:23 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-5470 Negate the fact there is a hell to hold the obstinent & willfull sinner. Acceptance of that place is irrelavent as we humans are not going to change the written word of God about the thing just because we don't want it to be so. It will convince all unbelievers about its existence once you are bound into it. The opportunity to avoid it is now. - zobcity1 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:40:39 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4996 then how did samuel appear to paul?is then samuel a devil ?its unacceptable - Aemiline Sampath Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:19:33 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4961 death is what he offered u the long life,richies are all lies - Julius Jacob Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:46:33 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4959 Jesus told His disciples that He was returning to Heaven, to prepare a place for them, and that after death, they would be able to go where He went. The Bible says that at His Resurrection, Jesus "led a host of captives" to heaven, and also that since that time, all saints who die are instantly taken to heaven; King David prophesied about this event in the Psalms. These souls are then "absent from the body but present with the Lord" (2 Cor. 5:6-8.) Elijah and Moses appeared with Jesus; although Elijah had not physically died, Moses HAD died; thus, his soul clearly continued to exist after death. Paul was taken to PARADISE, which is now in Heaven. Rachel died after giving birth; her SOUL "DEPARTED" while her BODY was BURIED: Gen 35:18 As her soul was departing (for she died), she called his name Ben-oni ... Gen 35:19 So Rachel died, and she was buried on the way to Ephrath. The death of the body is NOT the death of the soul: Matthew 10:28 “And do not fear those who kill the body BUT CANNOT KILL THE SOUL. Rather fear him who can destroy BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell.” Jesus told the Sadducees that they were wrong for not believing in the continued existence of the soul, because to God, the physically dead (such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), are still alive: Luke 20:38 “Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living, for ALL LIVE TO HIM." John had visions of Heaven where he saw countless conscious, hearing, speaking “SOULS UNDERNEATH THE ALTAR", who had been beheaded; this was BEFORE God judged the wicked. Rev 6:9-11 I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been. It is clear that the souls of the saints go to be with God in heaven at death, because God BRINGS THEM BACK TO EARTH WITH HIM when He comes to resurrect their dead bodies: 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, GOD WILL BRING WITH HIM those who have fallen asleep. God could not bring these souls with Him to earth, if they were not already in Heaven after death! Paul says that, when we are “AWAY FROM THE BODY”, that is, physically dead, we are “AT HOME WITH GOD”, and that we try to please Him, “whether at home or away”. It is obvious that this would be impossible if, when we are physically dead, we cease to consciously exist. Only those who are alive, in body OR in spirit, can please God: 2Co 5:8,9 Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. Paul would not have preferred to leave his churches, if he had not been going somewhere better than this earthly life at death. These verses prove that the soul is indeed separate from the body, and that just like LAZARUS or the RICH MAN who both died, the soul is in a place either of fear of eternal judgement, or of bliss in heaven. - Lorraine Clarke Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:11:11 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4958 An Extract from Josephus' Discourse to the Greeks concerning Hades. 1. Now as to Hades, wherein the souls of the righteous and unrighteous are detained, it is necessary to speak of it. Hades is a place in the world not regularly finished; a subterraneous region, where the light of this world does not shine; from which circumstance, that in this place the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must be in it perpetual darkness.This place is allowed as a place of custody for souls, in which angels are appointed as guardians to them, who distribute to them temporary punishments, corresponding to every one's behaviour and manners. 2. In this region there is a certain place set apart, as a lake of unquenchable fire, wherein we suppose no one has hitherto been cast; but it is prepared for a day afore-determined by God, in which one righteous sentence shall deservedly be passed upon all men; when the unjust and those that have been disobedient to God, and have given honour to such idols as have been the vain operations of the hands of men, as to God Himself, shall be adjudged to this everlasting punishment, as having been the causes of defilement; while the just shall obtain an incorruptible and unfading kingdom. These are now indeed confined in Hades, but not in the same place wherein the unjust are confined. 3. For there is one descent into this region, at whose gate we believe there stands an archangel with a host; which gate when these pass through that are conducted down by the angels appointed over souls, they do not go the same way; but the just are guided to the right hand, and are led with hymns sung by the angels appointed over that place, unto a region of light, in which the just have dwelt from the beginning of the world; not constrained by necessity, but ever enjoying the prospect of the good things they see, and rejoice in the expectation of those new enjoyments which will be peculiar to every one of them, and esteeming those things beyond what we have here; with whom there is no place of toil, no burning heat, no piercing cold, nor are any briers there; but the countenance of the Fathers and of the just, which they see, always smile upon them, while they wait for that rest and eternal new life in heaven, which is to succeed this region. This place we call the Bosom of Abraham. 4. But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to the left hand, by the angels allotted for punishment, no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels appointed over them to reproach them and to threaten them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them still downwards. Now those angels that are set over these souls, drag them into the neighbourhood of hell itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the hot vapour itself; but when they have a nearer view of this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful expectation of a future judgement, and in effect punished thereby; and not only so, but where they see the place [or choir] of the Fathers and of the just, even hereby they are punished; for a great gulf deep and large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man that has compassion upon them, cannot be admitted, nor can one that is unjust, if he were bold enough to attempt it, pass over it. 5. This is the discourse concerning Hades, wherein the souls of all men are confined until a proper season, which God has determined, when He will make a resurrection of all men from the dead. - Lorraine Clarke Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:09:52 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4957 Josephus the Jewish historian is believed to have been educated as a Pharisee, to have then become a Christian, and even the Bishop of Jerusalem, before the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. He wrote a Discourse to the Greeks concerning HADES, in which he explained the Jews' beliefs on Resurrection and the fate of souls after death, compared to the Greek belief of re-incarnation. This extract perfectly agrees in every way with a simple reading of all related verses in the Bible, EXCEPT in one point. There is just one point in Josephus' Discourse which altered after the Cross; the destination of the SOULS of all the saints who die. Josephus says that the souls of all who died, were taken to HADES (Greek; Hebrew SHEOL), a place under the earth, where the righteous went to the BOSOM of ABRAHAM awaiting the resurrection of their bodies, whereas the souls of the wicked dead were taken to a place of PUNISHMENT, beside the LAKE of FIRE, to await their Resurrection of Judgement, after which they would be cast into that Lake of Fire to suffer eternally. Josephus apparently did not realise that the souls of the righteous are now taken to Heaven at death, but his Discourse on Hades agrees perfectly in every other point with all the many Bible verses which teach that the soul continues to exist after death. Josephus' Discoures on Hades agrees perfectly with the true story which Jesus told about the fate of the soul after death: Luk 16:22-26 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.' But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.' However, since Jesus' Resurrection, the souls of all the saints have been taken up to Heaven, to the presence of God, after death. There, they await the rsurrection of their bodies and the transformation of the living saints. Psalms 68:18 You ascended on high, leading a host of captives in your train and receiving gifts among men, even among the rebellious, that the LORD God may dwell there. Ephesians 4:8 Therefore it says, "When he ascended on high he led a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men." Those who follow Ellen G White cannot ever admit the truth of these Scriptures, because it disproves their false doctrine of the Investigative Judgement. The fact is that there is no need for such an “Investigative Judgement”, because Jesus always knows our hearts: 2 Tim 2:19 But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: "The Lord knows those who are his." The Lord does not need to “investigate the cases” of His saints, or check on whether they are keeping the Jewish Sabbath; because God's Seal is that the Lord knows each one of His children. - Lorraine Clarke Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:07:52 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4878 I find it interesting that Ellen G White did claim to converse with her dead husband through a dream! After she woke, she implemented advice for herself and for the church, that this dead man, James White, had given to her during that dream. Here is a small extract of Ellen White's letter to her son, in which she described her conversation with her husband, who had been dead for almost 5 weeks: "A few days since I was pleading with the Lord for light in regard to my duty. In the night I dreamed I was in the carriage, driving, sitting at the right hand. Father {Ellen's term for her husband, JAMES WHITE} was in the carriage, seated at my left hand. He was very pale, but calm and composed. ‘Why, Father,’ I exclaimed, ‘I am so happy to have you by my side once more! I have felt that half of me was gone. Father, I saw you die; I saw you buried. Has the Lord pitied me and let you come back to me again, and we work together as we used to?’ "He looked very sad. He said, ‘The Lord knows what is best for you and for me. My work was very dear to me. We have made a mistake. We have responded to urgent invitations of our brethren to attend important meetings. We had not the heart to refuse. These meetings have worn us both more than we were aware ...” Apparently there is one rule for the founder of this religion, and a separate rule for everybody else!! - Lorraine Clarke Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:36:00 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4852 Pray unto GOD so because in our daily lives satan works hard to deceive you in his will so that we will convince on his evil works, specially when our special love ones left. Satan will work hard for it! - Jasonkid Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:10:51 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/articles/spiritualism-and-the-reward-of-the-saints.html#comment-4818 This is a very important article and it is important for everyone to reaad it to avoid being deceived. - vivian ibeziako Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:03:46 +0100