Comments for The Seventh-day Adventist Church of Today: Part of Babylon or God's Remnant Church? at http://www.worldslastchance.com , comment 1 to 53 out of 20 comments http://www.worldslastchance.com Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:54:50 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-8667 I am really desapointed for what you guys have wrote about the SDA church. Basically there is anger on your writings, something personal againts someone. The SDA only preaches the bible. Sola Spriptura is the principle where SDA stands for. There will be always mis-understanding between human beings, as same was with Peter and Paul and other men in the bible. You guys know that Jesus Christ is comming soon, we should stop with this type of ofenses and preach the word of God. The idea of this web site is good to annouce that Jesus is comming, but when start to personal issues about who did this and who did that that waisting time. I hope you guys reconsider what you guys had been publishing and pray that God guide your ministry. Sincerelly Carlos. send me an e-mail with questions carlos@dftusa.com - Everaldo Carlos Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:03:20 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-8077 I thought you people were trying to spread the gospel, instead you're running a marathon against SDA church. I'm a SDA Christian I believe we preach the truth from the Bible and we do explain the Bible through EGW Books. You (WLC) instead of sharing the Gospel with the world are with a big problem criticising SDA Church. I hope you analyse the purpose of your site. As SDA member I can tell you that we believe in the Trinity (God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), God Holy Spirit). Can you please explain what SDA's preach that is not according with the Bible. - Sandro Manuel Da Costa Pinto Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:07:48 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-7732 i love God and I will follow Him.. And I can makethis through the help of the SDA church!! Praise God I belong to His fold!! - Juna Flor Januyan Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:03:20 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-7731 I thought that this site is managed by SDA's.. What is really the main reason that you have separated from the SDA church? Coz for me, i do believe that SDA church is still God's ChurCh.. - Juna Flor Januyan Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:58:46 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-7272 I Think if we say that our Loving God would punish us with eternal life in hell is unreasonable. . . - Jimson Echave Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:59:27 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-7273 I Think if we say that our Loving God would punish us with eternal life in hell is unreasonable. . . - Jimson Echave Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:59:27 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-7270 I guess, If EGWhite is still alive today, she will still belong to the foundation that God had established. . During her time, many SDA's are not still vegetarians and she did not even think of separating in the Church of God. . . Ellen White is the prophet still in the last days and there's no need for us to separate and apostatize In God's Light. - Jimson Echave Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:38:08 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-6991 YESTERDAY, ME AND MY FAMILY ATTENDED A SERVICE AT A SDA CHURCH, WE DO NOT BELONG TO ANY DENOMINATION, WE JUST ATTENDED. THE REASON WE WENT IS BECAUSE THEY OBSERVE THE LORDS SABBATH. WE'VE JUST BEEN NORMALLY OBSERVING THE LORDS SABBATH HERE AT HOME. ANYWAY NOT LONG AFTER WE WERE THERE A LADY APPROACHED ME AND SAID FORGET WHAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER TAUGHT YOU, WE DON'T BELIEVE IN HELL BURNING FOREVER, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE ETERNAL HELL IS FOREVER, WE BELIEVE THAT AFTER THEY ARE BURNED UP THEN THAT IS IT. 1ST OF ALL I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE NEW MY GRANDMOTHER IS THE ONE THAT TAUGHT ME, I DID NOT KNOW THIS LADY, THEN 2 ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE EVERY OTHER CHURCH I HAVE VISITED, SINCE THE LORD CONVERTED ME, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEGAN TO LOOK LIKE ROBOTS, LIKE THERE UNDER SOME KIND OF TRANCE OR SOMETHING, WHILE THERE I DID NOT FEEL THE PRESENCE OF GOD BEING IN IT. ANYWAY WHEN I GOT HOME, I BEGAN TO RESEARCH THE BIBLE AS I ALWAYS DO BEFORE RECEIVING ANYTHING ANYONE HAS TO SAY, I ALSO PRAY VERY OFTEN AND ASK THE LORD NOT TO LET ME BE DECEIVED, SO I BEGAN TO RESEARCH THE LORDS WORD,AS I BEGAN TO SEARCH I FOUND IN THE LORDS WORD, WERE A SERVANT OF THE LORD RECORDED IN REVELATION 20;10: Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. HELL IS A PLACE OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT I MUST WARN YOU, I FIRST LISTEN TO MY LORD, MY TEACHER AND CREATOR OF ALL THINGS, SO I MAY NOT RECEIVE YOUR RESPONSE. I THINK IF PEOPLE BEGIN TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO SUCH A PLACE, THEN THEY WILL FEEL THEY CAN DO WHAT EVER THEY WANT, LIKE THERE IS NO PUNISHMENT FOR THERE ACTIONS, EVEN IN THIS LIFE PEOPLE GET LIFE, IN THIS LIFE FOR DISOBEYING THE LAWS, BUT ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THIS PUNISHMENT IS ETERNAL. IF THE LAKE OF FIRE IS NOT FOREVER, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN, WE NO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WITH JESUS. ETERNAL=FOREVER. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD AT ALL WANT TO FOLLOW JESUS OR FOREVER BE WITH THE LORD [b]ONLY[/b] BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO THIS PLACE OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. IT SHOULD BE LIKE IN THIS LIFE, WE OBEY AND LISTEN TO OUR PARENTS BECAUSE WE LOVE THEM AND DON'T WANT TO HURT THEM AND OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE PUT ON PUNISHMENT. EVERYONE THAT WANTS THE TRUTH SHOULD PRAY FOR UNDERSTANDING, GOD SAID HE WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK. I KNOW I WANT ATTEND MANY MORE OF THESE SERVICES, BUT I FEEL IN MY HEART THAT EACH CHURCH I HAVE VISITED, THERE IS SOMEONE IN THERE GOD IS CALLING OUT AND TO HIS TRUTH. HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE SOON, MAY THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, FATHER OF JESUS LEAD US ALL INTO HIS TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS. - T TEKOAH Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:29:35 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-5732 Dear WLC Team, I can see where your argument is leading all the readers. You are leading the readers to hate the Adventist Church for some personal propaganda. I’m not sure on which issues you are dissatisfied with the Adventist Church in the past but I’m sure that it had cause you great disappointment. One thing that we need to understand when we follow God is that it is about worshipping God truly from the heart and not personal issues. If you plan to gather many followers, then I think you have succeeded. But remember that following God doesn’t mean that everybody is following you. One thing for sure; you can use Sister White’s writing in a constructive or destructive manner, just as people from other religion could use the Bible itself to attack Christianity. So, it’s not shocking that you can use ONLY from her writing to condemned the Adventist Church, but NOT from the bible, because the Adventist Church is the only church that obey the Bible and Bible Alone. Remember that God is still calling those who are in alliance with the world, that’s means US, NOT the church itself. A church is merely a church without obedience and allegiance to God. So let us put our trust in God, and not in church. Let us remember that the church leaders were merely sinful men just like we were. Let us remember one important lesson from Noah’s Ark; the only way to be saved was to stay in the ark, although it is not comfortable to be in the ark with those animals. The way to be saved in the world is to stay together in God’s “Ark”, although it seems not comfortable. Last but not least, remember that the Bible warned “as it is in the days of Noah, it shall be the same before the Son of Man returns.” - Earie Madius Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:16:27 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-5713 Hello Ravi, In response to your comment, I would like to direct you to prayerfully read the following links on our website: -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/seventh-day-adventist-church/wlc-is-an-offshoot-movement-of-the-sda-church.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/seventh-day-adventist-church/why-is-wlc-questioning-the-authority-of-the-general-conference-of-the-sda-church.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/seventh-day-adventist-church/i-question-why-you-would-leave-the-sda-church.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/seventh-day-adventist-church/i-question-why-you-would-leave-the-sda-church.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/ecumenism/christian-world-communions.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/seventh-day-adventist-church/how-can-you-believe-in-ellen-whites-ministry-while-upholding-a-wednesday-crucifixion.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/seventh-day-adventist-church/do-you-believe-that-the-holy-spirit-is-the-third-person-of-the-godhead.html[/url] -[url]http://www.worldslastchance.com/ecumenism/adventist-an-ecumenical-pioneer.html[/url] I will end my response by quoting the following words from the Lord's messenger for His people in these last probationary days: "We have many lessons to learn, and many, many to unlearn. God and heaven alone are infallible. Those who think that they will never have to give up a cherished view, never have occasion to change an opinion, will be disappointed. As long as we hold to our own ideas and opinions with determined persistency, we cannot have the unity for which Christ prayed."--The Review and Herald, July 26, 1892. {1SM 37.3} It is a Satanic fallacy promoted by the corrupt leadership of the SDA Church that Ellen White taught that the SDA Church will never fall. She never ever taught such a heresy. On the contrary, she repeatedly warned that the SDA Church will repeat the history of the Ancient Jews. We have great burden for His people who are still trapped in this fallen church. We have created this section so that the sincere ones would be able to read the writings on the wall and escape for their lives. I pray that you would be diligent enough to test the evidence, and to allow His voice to be heard in your heart. His voice to His people today in the SDA Church is sounding in an no uncertain voice: "Come out of her my people." In His love and service, WLC Team. - galal doss Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:47:08 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-5711 ok since according to u'll evidences u guys at wlc has come up with the conclusion that the SDA Church is no longer God's Church then which is, and is that new church in all the world preaching the gospel because which ever that church is must accomplish this goal before Christ return. Furthermore, i thought Ellen White stated that there will not be another Church of God. Also y do u guys printed and distribute Ellen White books if u disagree with the trinity. Because after reading her books she clearly believed in the trinity. We all know who Babylon is and i believe that the SDA Church is there to conteract the conterfeit. Whether u believe it to be moving in that direction or not. I strongly disagree, the errors of man cannot rest upon the shoulders of the organization because in the end every one is responsible for his own salvation. THE DOCTRINES OF THE CHURCH ARE TRUE. - Ravi Lamontagne Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:06:09 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-5339 do you have any evidence or proof from the bible that the seventh-day adventist church is a harlot church? with supporting text.:):)[b][/b] - aldren rosales Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:58:57 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-5031 in the war between god and satan,the seventh day adventist church has fallen to satanic forces - slobo cant tell Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:48:45 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-4227 well as may read your introduction well.. maybe they are fallen sda but here not.. any mare because we believe that thear is GOD.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - eric juan Wed, 13 May 2009 02:25:53 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-4171 its lik a sweets - pankaj srivastava Sat, 09 May 2009 03:44:44 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-3610 I believe that the membership of the SDA as a whole worldwide would not constitute Babylon or a sister to Babylon. But having said this I must state that those who operate the day to day business of the General Conference are as close to Babylon as any church can get. The main reason I say this is the average member does not the know the ins and outs of the politics of the General Conference. I myself have just begun to uncover the appostacy. I beleive that the ecumenical steps being taken by the General Conference is just one more feather in Mrs. White's prophetic hat or predictions of what would happen to our church. Also, the doctrine of the Trinity, which really isn't a doctrine of the Bible but a dogma of the prelates of the socalled "Holy Apostolic" church in Rome namely the Roman Catholic Church. These two: the ecumenical steps and fundamental belief number 2 are beginning of the end of current structure of the SDA church. God will not let this go on much longer as there are other things creeping in under our collective radars so to speak, such as the doctrine of another intercessor, accepting easter services, and the current symbology being incorporated into the Adventist theology. God will not let this stand you can count on this! - Real Michaud Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:09:29 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-3597 Dear,God bless you.It wounder me very much ,to describe this act or thought, by the word Babylonian. I agree with you that Babel washed the minds, of all the false type of thinking. It is really my personal point of view, which I tried many times to declare to you, about many groups .The latest were the merchants of tongues. But I want to be more kind, when we describe some, who has a great deal of light, we can not find it, in any other group .I mean to adopt another method ,like the method of Paul in Acts 17.22-34 ,or the method of the apostles in Acts 15.1-40. you do not know how is the difficulty, to be in a group which goes far beyond these differences ,sorry, but I know inside myself, why I feel you as my family, forgive my curiosity. yours truly. Rev. Joseph. - Joseph Messiha Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:03:19 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-3558 Good question, God's true church will never fail, and it will never fall. The question now to be asked is, where/what is God's true Church? Well, it is no longer the SDA Church as it is now teaching concepts that contradict its original beliefs and the Bible. God's true church is composed of all the sincere people (who may be found in different denominations) who will stand up for the truth at all costs. The members of this church have their names written in the book of life, and not just under a nominal denomination. God bless you. In His love and service, WLC Team - Natalie K Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:04:05 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-3504 i want to apologise first for asking alot of questions. i am jus search for the truth. but isnt it EG White who mentioned that in the last days, the church will look like it's going to fall (because of sins) but it will never fall. so which church is that? please do reply, as i really want to know. - phyllis rauqe Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:43:59 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html#comment-3484 The SDA Church, as it was in Ellen White's days, had started to acquire some false concepts, but the false doctrines did not appear in the church until much after, and long after the death of Ellen White. The SDA Church is no longer teaching or abiding by the truths it was once founded upon. Our loyalty should be to the truth, not to an organization. As for the parable of the wheat and the tares, the field is not the church, but represents the world. As if obvious, evil and good people will continue to exist in the world until the second coming. As for the church, of course there are members who are not sincere, and these should be tolerated, however, when there are errors being accepted in the theology and doctrines of the church, staying in that church means that you agree to and accept these false doctrines it teaches. Our loyalty should always be to the truth. God bless! In His love and service, WLC Team - Natalie K Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:05:30 +0100