Comments for Background at http://www.worldslastchance.com , comment 1 to 41 out of 20 comments http://www.worldslastchance.com Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:19:14 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-8162 It is unfortunately that there must be someonebody who teaches somebody. It does not matter whether it is at school or in the church, but somebody is needed. It is at that point where satan is taking an advantage. To my point of view if you are SDA member please do not leave the organisation because somebody is misleading you. For the fact that you know that he or she is misleading, that means you are mature enough to distinguish between whatis wrong and what is write. Even if you are a WLC member please do not leave the organisation. If the truth is there do not mind about the misleading, follow the truth, do the truth teach. Where ever you go there will be people who like to recognised. It does not matter whether they are being recognised by good or bad but they demand to be recognised. Read your Bible and follow it. I know that the the God's people are too intelligent, and they want to be more intelligent than their creater. - Mthandazeli Willie Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:53:36 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-8057 Thanks to this site, I have a lover who is an christian, so, I want to know more about this religious myself, I hope what I've done will make him surprising and happyly - xuan trang tran Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:10:44 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-7670 thank you for allowing me to enter this site, i read all the comment, i baptist as sda last 2007, but when i read all this comment i wonder who is the truth. Still i believe that we are worshiping one God thank you and God Bless to all, continue search the truth because i believe that the bible has many miracle that no can translate it, only if God send us Holy Spirit we can do this . God Bless You! - lilydith salazar Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:23:13 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-7445 I u care only about being in God's church in heaven only what about the commandment he left us to keep the sabbath holy, and is there need of it in this world?I think also u shld care to be among other fellow believers for no man is an island and thats why it's encouraged to join a church of God and fellowship with them for we are all united in christ and form part of his body. - rael adhiambo Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:38:40 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-7166 I think this site offers a lot of bible truth, however if these founders used to be seventh-day-adventist,and they claim to believe in the socond coming of christ,also they believe in Ellen White books, then they should know that the seventh day adventist church is God's remnant church,and even if make mistakes,we are all imperfect beings. - Sharon Campbell-Phillips Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:53:45 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-6063 hi WLC! Christian Greetings! i have no problem with the reforms like you.. as long as your life is Christ-centered.. Go on with your book ministry to help proclaim the message of salvation! God bless! joan - joan buncad Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:20:25 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-5845 1st of all i congratulate WLC team for their pious initiative. May GOD bless you all. one thing keeps on confusing me. although u have stated that you were used to be members of the Seventh Day Adventist Church until you realized that this church also rejected and subverted many Bible truths,thus you decided to withdraw your membership and separate from this denomination. NOW IF YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY SEPARATED FROM THIS DENOMINATION(the Seventh Day Adventist Church)THEN "WHY"ARE YOU SENDING & PROMOTING BOOKS WRITTEN BY [b]Ellen Gould White[/b].AS YOU & MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD KNOWS THAT [b]Ellen Gould White (born Harmon) (November 26, 1827 – July 16, 1915) was an American Christian leader whose ministry was instrumental in founding the Sabbatarian Adventist movement that led to the rise of the Seventh-day Adventist Church???.[/b] - zohaib john Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:57:27 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-5649 the things in the Bible are really happening now in our generation - Uwaneyin Aghogho Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:21:51 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-5400 It is better to pull out than being sentenced to sin and death. In this end time, many churches including SDA are bound to be lukewarm, what they need however, is prayers and not condemnation. True believers should pray for one another from point of reason that JEHOVAH would not want His children to perish. He has shown that love by sending Jesus. - Cyprain Ikeche Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:11:31 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-4819 Continue the good work ,GOd will reward you.There are many lost souls out there that need to here these because many christians today are losing their way and are confused by all the waves of doctrine.Remain blessed. - vivian ibeziako Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:15:57 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-4723 And just what would Yeshua do? All this confusion on who is right or wrong is not the point. We need to break the walls that seperate the body of Yeshua. For if the truth of Yahweh hath more abounded through my lie unto His glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? And not rather,(as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,)Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin: As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after Yahweh. Romans 3:7-11 We are nothing with out the Holy Spirit who gives us guidence and instruction. We would not be where we are right now if Yahweh hadn't called us. With our puny minds we should just be glad and Thank Yahweh for His mercy and grace. For we could still be sitting on the so called fence watching the world go by too. It is Yahweh who lifts His hand from our hardened hearts, and give us eyes to see, and ears to hear. We do nothing on our own. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen,and repent, and do the first works. Rev.2:5 We need to start stepping into the Kingdom and realize that we all are suppose to help those who aren't on the path which is straight and narrow. Forget about self, Love your neighbor, but first love Yahweh. This spirit of confusion is the same spirit which seperated people at the tower of babylon. Jezebel!!! Lets not repeat History. Shalom - Emily Abeyta Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:22:32 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-4580 One how many Jesus do we have and base on what you say that Seventh Day Adventist Church church also rejected and subverted many Bible truths??? second don't judge people or you are the one being judge. third Jesus teach us to love our family menber and don't look at their wrong. fourth we are the body of Christ and should not be devided. Last we should love everyone no matter who their are or what race their are - David chong mow shyan Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:43:24 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-4359 Dear Alfred Measulia, with your comment you proved exactly what you can read here: http://www.worldslastchance.com/for-sdas-only/seventh-day-adventist-babylon-or-gods-remnant.html I copied the part that I mean (just visit the Link above, there you will find much more information): [b]"We are told in the first chapter of The Great Controversy that the destruction of Jerusalem was a type (a prefigure) of the destruction of the Church and world in the last days. In the type, we note that Jewish leaders, while Jerusalem was besieged by the Romans, hired and bribed many false prophets and shepherds to assure the Jews of the inevitability of deliverance by God at the eleventh hour. “To establish their power more firmly, they (Jewish leaders) bribed false prophets to proclaim, even while Roman legions were besieging the temple, that the people were to wait for deliverance from God. To the last, multitudes held fast to the belief that the Most High would interpose for the defeat of their adversaries.” GC 28. Is this false hope of final cleansing and deliverance of the Church promulgated today in the Seventh-day Adventist Church as it was done in Jerusalem in 70 A.D.? Sadly, it is. Both the leadership of the Church as well as the various independent ministries are spreading around this false anti-divine counsel in a big way. While the creditability of the leadership amongst the conservative members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church may not be high, we find Satan deceiving very effectively those very conservatives through the various independent ministries today, which often teach a lot of truth, while at the same time fighting satanically against any attempt to call God’s people out of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. By such a course, those ministries represent Satan’s most destructive tool as regards entrapping God’s people in this doomed Church, which will be the first to experience the ire of God. Satan is able to use them so effectively because the ratio of truth in their teachings is much higher than it is within the Conference-controlled churches. We feel a solemn duty to expose those false shepherds by name. Many a soul would be lost because they look up to those leaders, and when they see them refusing to come out of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, the members assume it to be the correct stand. Such a member, although presented with overwhelming evidence of the need to heed God’s call before it is too late, yet gets influenced by the stand of those false shepherds. Beware of following such individuals and do not follow nor listen to their teachings, for they always appear as angels of light , but they invariably fail in the acid test. For they not only would not come out of the Church themselves, but would discourage any hesitant member from heeding God’s final call of mercy. We do not know the ‘heart’ reasons for their stand. Only God can read their hearts. We cannot understand how they would not see the necessity of coming out of the fallen Seventh-day Adventist Church. About those false shepherds we quote the following divine injunction: “Those ministers who are men pleasers, who cry, Peace, peace, when God has not spoken peace, might well humble their hearts before God, asking pardon for their insincerity and their lack of moral courage. It is not from love for their neighbors that they smooth down the message entrusted to them, but because they are self-indulgent and ease-loving. True love seeks first the honor of God and the salvation of souls. Those who have this love will not evade the truth to save themselves from the unpleasant results of plain speaking. When souls are in peril, God's ministers will not consider self, but will speak the word given them to speak, refusing to excuse or palliate evil.” RH, Mar. 25, 1890. While the false shepherds roaming within the Seventh-day Adventist Church are plentiful, we praise God that there are a few faithful shepherds who have heeded God’s call and have since been giving the trumpet a certain sound. They call upon God’s people to come out of all fallen churches and systems of religions, not excluding any church entity. Often their names have been much tarnished and maligned by some of the false shepherds, but this did not cause them to deviate from duty." [/b] - Matthias Tue, 19 May 2009 07:07:03 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3923 As an ordinary member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, I have been following events which affected the standing of the church. As a journalist I am interested to find out why people with good standing in the church decided to go out. To my amazement, those who left the church usually regrouped with other followers and engaged in a campaign to mar the image of the church. In Solomon Islands we called them off-shoots. Plenty of them held public meetings to try to win members of the church (SDA). They failed miserably in most cases. During the last 3 years we lost two ordained ministers who held senior positions in the Mission. Practically, they left the church because they were not happy about their current positions. Frustration over the administration that they were not able to get a positions they had been coveting for sometimes has been the main reason for leaving the church. These two pastors handed over their credentials to the church administration and left, saying that they no longer members of the church. In my own research over the years, I found that others who left the church can be generally covered under the same category: frustration. They then gave poor excuses that the church had gone astray from biblical tenets. I have not seen this. The church still clings to its 27 (now 28) fundamental beliefs. Just a week ago my reading led to discover that Ellen White has someting to say on this. If you read one of her books, Select Messages Book 3 page 408, you will notice that she predicted 'a science of the devil'. I quote part of message for our readers: "What is soon coming upon us? Seducing spirits are coming in. If God has ever spoken by me, you will before long hear of a wonderful science--a science of the devil. Its aim will be to make of no account God and Jesus Christ who He has sent. Some will exalt this false science, and through Satan will seek to make void the law of God.... Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of the devils (1 Tim. 4:1). The time of this apostasy is here. Every conceivable effort will be made to throw doubt upon the positions that we have occupied for over half a century." With these statement I believe we are in for this to happpen and now it is right at the door. I, for one, will never go away from the truth that I found to be based on the Bible. I cannot believe in any 'twisting' of the plain truth. Some argued that they would not be included in an organised church. What is wrong with an organised church? Did not Paul warn us that with God everything must be done in an orderly manner? I don't want to be in a group which has not organised itself. Every group or whatever you called it, in this world, is organised one way or another. The rejected church, Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) is an organised church. So what? I know your group is also an orgnised church or group: World Last Chance. The name Seventh-day Adventist has no bearing on my salvation. It is just a name which distiguishes itself from other organised groups. Rightfully, our name should be the World Church of God. Thank you. - Alfred Maesulia Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:07:24 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3896 Indeed God didn't specify the seventh day is Saturday, but He stated clearly that the seventh day of the week is the Sabbath. Then, we have to determine what day is the seventh day so we may abide without fault in His commandment. The very sure ground that we can count on is only the BIBLE, that will give us light to find the true seventh day is. Matt.28:1, Mark 16:2,9, Luke 24:1, John 20:1 tells us about the first day of the week, when Mary Magdalene and the women brought spices to the sepulcher, and they found it was empty. All the Christians believe that Jesus was found already risen on that day, Sunday, unless you are not agree with it. So, actually the first day of the week according to the bible is Sunday, not Monday as the people of this world knew. Then, if the first day start from Sunday, the seventh would fall on Saturday, it is the Sabbath day (Exo.20:10) Frankly speaking that the early Adventist teaching are all truth and pure and these are what we uphold, not the SDA's teaching today that cause us to separate ourselves from them. Keeping the pure and undefiled teaching of the truth that was being brought by the pioneers of early SDA, which already being tested every point with the truth in the bible, doesn't mean that we are still part of today SDA Organization. As the bible teach us " Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (I Tess.5:21), this what we have been doing :) In His Love and Service, WLC Team - sharon sumampouw Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:24:45 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3885 beforehand; God has shown me who are you guys. why because of your "Sabbath thing"! Yes, i believe in my heart Sabbath means it is all about a Holy Day sanctified to have fellowship with the LORD God Almighty, Christ Jesus the One True Living God, but i don't believe God has specifically call it "Saturday". Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. So, if you come to realize these particular verses, God didn't specifically mentioned Saturday as the "Sabbath Day" but: Heb 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. Heb 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, Today if ye will hear his voice, Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: Heb 3:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. Heb 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. Heb 3:11 So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called Today; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. That from that verse Heb 3:13: this is a very clear indication that God, Christ Jesus Christ is encouraging His followers to "Exhort" one another "Daily" and not mentioning any Saturday at all. Besides, look at Heb 13:11 and 13:12; Christ Jesus is telling us that those who have an unbelieving heart can't enter into "His Rest". Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, Tomorrow is [u][b]the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD[/b][/u]: bake that which ye will bake today, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. And finally, your group claimed to be separated from the White Group "SDA" yet the remnants of their teaching still part of your being! For Christ Jesus said:"Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. Joh 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house forever: but the Son abideth ever. Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. So the question to you guys are inline with these verses? Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Rom 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. Rom 4:3 For what saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Rom 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. servant of Christ Jesus, mario sr. MS - Mario Sr. Apellido Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:50:22 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3755 If you meant synagogues and not a church, you should say synagogue instead of church. I'm sure WLC can see how this would be misleading. WLC usually gives a scripture reference that they [i]think[/i] backs up their statements. Which scripture leads you to believe that Jesus and His Apostles were not part of the synagogue? - Lee Gilbert Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:47:51 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3738 What is referred to in the statement of Jesus and the disciples not being part of their organized religions is basically to state that Jesus and the disciples were not part of the Jewish synagogue, which was recognized as the organized church at that time. There was indeed organization and harmony in the "churches" set up later on by the apostles, these are not referred to in the above statement. God bless you. In His love and service, WLC Team - Natalie K Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:00:41 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3653 There was no organized christian church aduring the time Jesus was alive, and as far as the apostles go, they were the only organized church of the time that wasn't still wrapped up with Jewish laws. The church in Antioch was where believers were first called Christians. Acts 11:25,26 "Then Barnabas departed for Tarsus to seek Saul." (Paul) 11:26 "And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch." And when Paul and Barnabas returned to Jerusalem after the first of Paul's missionary trips: Acts 15:4 "And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them." All through the book of Acts it is made very clear that the first believers were in fact, the first church. The church of the apostles and disciples/believers were the only organized church. To say they weren't part of the chuch is to deny the very existence of the church. - Lee Gilbert Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:04:00 +0100 http://www.worldslastchance.com/about-us/background.html#comment-3530 I live in Nigeria where we have many white garment churches i.e. they all wear white garment to church either on sunday service or weekly service. They belief on going to river for bathing, inorder to solve one problem or the order which is a usual activities or do I say a doctrine of the white garment church. What is your view, are we suppose to neglect prayer and resolve to bathing in the river. Can someone help me. - Tosin Olayinka Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:16:09 +0100