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The Points at Which Separation From Any Church Becomes a Duty

By Ron Beaulieu

There are many Seventh-day Adventists who sincerely believe that it would require another prophet to inform them if and when the SDA church has reached such a state of Omega Apostasy that separation from the church is necessary. Most professing Seventh-day Adventists are totally unaware of the many conditional statements by Ellen White involving when to separate from the SDA church and any church. Here are some of the more poignant of those statements:

"When those who are uniting with the world, yet claiming great purity, plead for union with those who have ever been the opposers of the cause of truth we should FEAR AND SHUN THEM as decidedly as did Nehemiah. Such counsel is prompted by the enemy of all good. It is the speech of timeservers, and should be resisted as resolutely today as then. Whatever influence would tend to unsettle the faith of God's people in His guiding power, should be steadfastly withstood." E.G. White, Prophets and Kings, 660.

"Any connection with infidels and unbelievers which would identify us with them is FORBIDDEN BY THE WORD. We are to come out from them and be SEPARATE. IN NO CASE are we to link ourselves with them in their plans or work." E.G. White, Fundamentals o Christian Education, 482.

OUR COMMENTARY: Uniting with the other churches by any connection which would identify us with them is the same as uniting with the world, because Early Writings, 273, says that the fallen churches are indistinguishable from the world. SDA ecumenical linkage by MEMBERSHIP and "WORKING RELATIONSHIP" with the World Council of Churches, its subsidiary National Councils of Churches, and local Ministerial Associations, is strictly forbidden by the Word of God. Beware, all who do so knowingly will be "broken in pieces." Isaiah 8:9-12, and Ezekiel 9:2, see marginal reference for the words "slaughtering weapon" in verse two. The margin says "a weapon of His breaking in pieces."

Every Member of the Seventh-day Adventist

The Achan principle in Scripture, as well as the "one body in Christ principle, and Ellen White, make it clear that every member of a church organization is responsible for the actions of the church they support. Were this not true, separation from Rome and the fallen Protestant churches would never have been necessary! The very existence of the SDA church would be a heretical blasphemy.
Here are a few of Ellen White's statements on corporate responsibility:

"The plain straight testimony must live in the church, or the curse of God will rest upon His people as surely as it did upon ancient Israel because of ther sins. God holds His people, AS A BODY, responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them" Testimonies, vol. 3, 269.

"I was shown that the pointed testimony must live in the church. This alone will answer to the message to the Laodiceans. Wrongs must be reproved, sin must be called sin, and iniquity must be met promptly and decidedly, and put away from us AS A PEOPLE." Testimonies, vol. 3, 260.

"Should a case like Achan's be among us, there are many who would acuse those who might act the part of Joshua in searching out the wrong, of having a wicked, faultfinding spirit...God's displeasure is upon His people, and He wil not manifest His power in the midst of them while sins exist among them and are FOSTERED BY THOSE IN RESPONSIBLE POSITIONS." Testimonies, vol. 3, 270.

Ecumenical linkage to fallen Babylon has been engaged by THOSE IN RESPONSIBLE POSITIONS in the professing SDA church. Every member who is aware of this UNPARDONABLE ACT OF APOSTASY, is corporately responsible for it if he/she remains a member of the church after being apprised of such violation on the part of the corporate church. See our section on the ecumenical involvement of the SDA church to further apprise yourself of this serious apostasy which "removes the eyes and feet from off the Midnight Cry Lighted Path, after which it is impossible to get back on the path according to Scripture and Ellen White.

Step off the Midnight Cry Lighted Path is Unpardonable Sin

"While praying at the family altar, the Holy Ghost fell on me, and I seemed to be rising higher and higher, far above the dark world. I turned to look for the Advent people in the world, but could not find them--when a voice said to me, 'Look again, and look a little higher.' At this I raised my eyes and saw a straight and narrow path cast up high above the world. On this path the Advent people were travelling to the City, which was at the farther end of the path. They had a bright light set up behind them at the first end of the path, which an angel told me was the Midnight Cry. This light shone all along the path, and gave light for their feet so they might not stumble. And if they kept their eyes fixed on Jesus, who was just before them, leading them to the City, they were safe. But soon some grew weary, and they said the City was a great way of, and they expected to have entered it before. Then Jesus would encourage them by raising his glorious right arm, and from his arm came a glorious light which waved over the Advent band, and they shouted Hallelujah! Others rashly denied the light behind them, and said that it was not God that had led them out so far. The light behind them went out leaving their feet in perfect darkness, and they stumbled and got their eyes off the mark and lost sight of Jesus, and fell off the path down in the dark and wicked world below. It was just as impossible for them to get on the path again and go to the City, as all the wicked world which God had rejected. They fell all the way along the path one after another, until we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming....
By this time the 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, God, New Jerusalem, and a glorious Star containing Jesus' new name." E.G. White, Word to the Little Flock, p. 14.

OUR COMMENTARY: The Midnight Cry of Matthew 25, called people out of the fallen churches. All who ever hear and understand the Midnight Cry, and thereafter take their eyes off the path lighted by that cry, by re-joining the fallen churches they were called out of by membership or confederacy in ASSOCIATION, COUNSEL AND/OR COUNCIL, GIRDING, OR LINKING WITH THEM IN ANY WAY WHICH WOULD IDENTIFY US WITH THEM, FALL OFF THE PATH AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO GET ON THE PATH AGAIN, WHICH IMPLIES SHUT DOOR UNPARDONABLE SIN! God's Word implies the same unpardonableness for such offense in Isaiah 8:9-20, and Revelation 14:9, 10. This is how the professing SDA church has committed corporate unpardonable sin. This is why Ellen White says that another literal manifestation of Ezekiel 9 will destroy SDA churches around the world. This is why the destroying angel of Ezekiel 9 begins at "His Sanctuary," the SDA churches, Testimonies, vol. 5, 211.

All this is what Ellen White really meant by "shut door!" Those who have committed this unpardonable sin have grossly perverted her meaning. This is a most serious consideration every SDA should weigh heavily before he/she determines to enter ecumenical relationship with and/or join any of the fallen churches.

How do we Prove Absolutely That the Above Statement Did Not Ever Imply a Shut Door on Everyone But Confirmed Adventists? We simply point Ellen White's adversaries to the following words from the statement:

"The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake....
By this time the 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united."

Neither Ellen White nor any who followed her from 1844 on, ever thought that faithful Adventists numbered 144,000 from 1844-1849, which is timeframe that Ellen White's critics say she taught a "shut door" by her above statement! There were only a few hundred SDAs by 1849! Ellen White was speaking of a time when 144,000 saints would be perfectly united on the truth. That time never existed even up to the time of her death, and it is questionable if that number of SDAs are perfectly united even to this day!
Also, Ellen White said that they fell all along the path till the end of time. This is speaking specifically (in context) of those who had once heard and obeyed the Midnight Cry light.

Additional Statements Related to When to Separate From Any Church Organization

"There can be no unity between truth and error. We can unite (join) with those who have been led into deception only when they are converted." E.G. White, The Upward Look, p. 88.

"I saw that decided efforts should be made to show those who are unchristian in life their wrongs, and if they do not reform, they should be separated from the precious and holy, that God may have a clean and pure people that He can delight in. Dishonor Him not by linking or uniting the clean with the unclean." Testimonies, vol. 1, 117, 118.

"As they persisted in their rejection of the gospel the apostle [Paul] ceased to preach in the synagogue." E.G. White, Acts of the Apostles, p. 285.

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Beware of those who arise with a great burden to denounce the church
written by Paul Steve, April 02, 2009
Beware of those who arise with a great burden to denounce the church. The chosen ones who are standing and breasting the storm of opposition from the world, and are uplifting the downtrodden commandments of God to exalt them as holy and honorable, are indeed the light of the world. How dare mortal man pass his judgment upon them, and call the church a harlot, Babylon, a den of thieves, a cage of every unclean and hateful bird, the habitation of devils, making the nations drunk with the wine of her fornication, confederating with the kings and great men of the earth, waxing rich through the abundance of her delicacies, and proclaiming that her sins have reached unto heaven and God hath remembered her iniquities? Is this the message we have to bear to Seventh-day Adventists? I tell you, no! God has given no man any such message. Let these men humble their hearts before God, and in true contrition repent that they have even for a time stood by the side of the accuser of the brethren who accused them before God day and night. . . . {TDG 172.2}

Supposing this spurious message is the one everyone must hear for this time, "Come out of her, my people," where shall we go? . . . {TDG 172.3}

I tell you, my brethren, the Lord has an organized body through whom He will work. There may be more than a score of Judases among them; there may be a rash Peter who will under circumstances of trial deny his Lord; there may be persons represented by John, whom Jesus loved, but he may have a zeal that would destroy men's lives by calling down fire from heaven upon them to revenge an insult to Christ and to the truth. But the great Teacher seeks to give lessons of instruction to correct these existing evils.--Manuscript 21, June 12, 189
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I agree
written by Damian Jackson, November 22, 2008
Last evening I went to a meeting at one of our conferences and one of the senior pastors there was talking about starting a prayer group that will unite with other non-SDA churches and pray for professional individuals like doctors and lawyers and they would not use the SDA name. Also he said that the way the Pentecostals pray is not wrong is just there expression and I was so surprised. This thing about unity is serious and it is calling our true church to unite with the world's churches. I am very skeptical about this unity thing when it relates to non-SDA churches who we should be calling out of Babylon into the light that we have.
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THE FOREMOST REASON AT WHICH SEPARATION FROM ALL DENOMINATIONAL CHURCHES BECOMES A DUTY
written by afolabi samuel, October 18, 2008
Separation becomes absolute a duty because of doctrinal heresy! We have the lessons to learn from the Holy word of God. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject. "Many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" See Titus 3:10; Romans 16:17; 2Thessalonians 3:6,14; 2Timothy 3:5; 2John 1:10.

We are authorized to hold in the same estimation as did the beloved disciple those who claim to abide in Christ while living in transgression of God's law. There exist in these last days evils similar to those that threatened the prosperity of the early church; and the teachings of the apostle John on these points should be carefully heeded. "You must have charity," is the cry heard everywhere, especially from those who profess sanctification. But true charity is too pure to cover an unconfessed sin. While we are to love the souls for whom Christ died, we are to make no compromise with evil. We are not to unite with the rebellious (that is separation friends) and call this charity. God requires His people in this age of the world to stand for the right as unflinchingly as did John in opposition to soul-destroying errors. {AA 554.3}

“But the message announcing the fall of Babylon must apply to some religious body that was once pure, and has become corrupt. It cannot be the Romish Church which is here meant; for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries. But how appropriate the figure as applied to the Protestant churches, all professing to derive their doctrines from the Bible, yet divided into almost innumerable sects. The unity for which Christ prayed does not exist. Instead of one Lord, one faith, one baptism, there are numberless conflicting creeds and theories. Religious faith appears so confused and discordant that the world know not what to believe as truth. God is not in all this; it is the work of man,--the work of Satan.” The Great Controversy 1884 ed, page 232.

"After a long and severe conflict, the faithful few decided to dissolve all union with the apostate church if she still refused to free herself from falsehood and idolatry. They saw that separation was an absolute necessity if they would obey the word of God. They dared not tolerate errors fatal to their own souls, and set an example which would imperil the faith of their children and children's children. To secure peace and unity they were ready to make any concession consistent with fidelity to God; but they felt that even peace would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of principle. If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war." The Great Controversy 1884 ed, page 46.2.

Hence the movement symbolized by the angel coming down from Heaven, lightening the earth with his glory, and crying mightily with a strong voice, announcing the sins of Babylon. In connection with his message the call is heard, `Come out of her, my people.' As these warnings join the third angel's message, it swells to a loud cry." The Great Controversy 1884 ed, page 422

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