Sadly,
you have confirmed that the ‘new’ statement of calling people out of Babylon is not for the SDAChurch,
in keeping with your ‘own’ understanding of the 1893 SOP council of not calling
the SDA Church Babylon.
We
are very much aware of those statements, and understand them
fully within their time context. The Lord's messenger stated clearly that what
she was saying was not unconditional endorsement of the SDA Church, but related
to the present time [1893] (TM 36, and TM 50), for then
and only then was the church standing in the breach.
Beloved Reuben: your historic position has not changed by
one iota regarding the SDAChurch; nor has our position regarding the SDAChurch
changed. We can not therefore work together. We are divided by a
fundamental difference. One of us has to change their position to be able to
work together again. At the present time, as a family we are not ready to
exclude the SDAChurch from the ‘come out of her my
people’ call. It took several email exchanges to really ascertain your
changeless position. Thank you for being honest and frank. However,
I would have preferred a more straight outline of your position in the first
email exchange. It would have saved us time and false hopes.
Once
you are ready to include the SDAChurch as part of Babylon, then and only then can work
together, again. This is not the time to be fundamentally at such a great
variance. We do not give one iota of weight to the name Seventh-day
Adventist. This once-chosen-by-God name, has been tarnished beyond
recovery by structure. We now seek to be identified as God’s people, who
keep the commandments and have the faith of Jesus. We have discarded
the name as an ‘unclean thing’. For today that name is a dishonor to our
heavenly Father. But we hold jealously to all
the light which once was given by the church, under the said name.
If
you contemplate carefully the differences between us you will appreciate why,
much to our sadness, we can not work together.
We should not give up the name Seventh Day Adventist written by David Barron,
May 02, 2009
I agree the GC Adventist church is fallen. However to give up the name "Seventh Day Adventist" is like giving up the name "Jew" or "Christian" or "reformer" or "Abrahams seed" or "Israel".
"You think, that those who worship before the saint’s feet, (Rev 3:9), will at last be saved. Here I must differ with you; for God shewed me that this class were professed Adventists, who had fallen away, and “crucified to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put Him to an open shame.” And in the “hour of temptation,” which is yet to come, to show out every one’s true character, they will know that they are forever lost; and overwhelmed with anguish of spirit, they will bow at the saint’s feet.” (EGW A Word to the Little Flock, page 12)
When you read that quote. You see that there are "professed Adventists" in the time of trouble. They are known as Laodiceans. But if you look above it says they are "Jews[Adventists] who say they are Jews[Adventists] but are not.
What that implies is that the 144,000 of Philadelphia are true Adventists. Is this is a name we are to give up? Clearly we are Adventists still in the time of trouble. Notice we are NEVER to be ashamed of this name. And this name is to borne through to the close of probation.
"Our institutions have taken a name which sets forth the character of our faith, and of this name we are NEVER to be ashamed. I have been shown that this name means much, and in adopting it we have followed the light given us from heaven...This distinctive banner is to be borne through the world to the CLOSE OF PROBATION." MS 15, 1896
There are many quotes which use the words "nominal Adventists" near to and in the time of trouble from SOP. That implies that there are true Adventists and this name is not to be given up.
You should be saying "he is not an Adventist which is one in the flesh, but he is an Adventist which is one in the spirit and heart" or perhaps "Hath God cast away his people? God forbid, for I am an Adventist". Or maybe "God can raise rocks to be Seventh Day Adventists". This name has meaning. We are the true Seventh Day Adventists while they have become "nominal Adventists" "Adventists who have not walked in the light" or "professed Adventists" "Offshoot Adventists" etc. To give up this name is like Paul giving up the name Jew, or Israel, or Abrahams seed. It's like us giving up the name Christian, or Reformer. We are the true Seventh Day Adventists brother. Don't give up the name. There is lots of support in SOP which shows the 144,000 are Seventh Day Adventists. Yours in Christ, David.
http://www.elijah144.com
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... written by Geraldine Taping,
December 15, 2008
what does the context of this message means?
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"You think, that those who worship before the saint’s feet, (Rev 3:9), will at last be saved. Here I must differ with you; for God shewed me that this class were professed Adventists, who had fallen away, and “crucified to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put Him to an open shame.” And in the “hour of temptation,” which is yet to come, to show out every one’s true character, they will know that they are forever lost; and overwhelmed with anguish of spirit, they will bow at the saint’s feet.” (EGW A Word to the Little Flock, page 12)
When you read that quote. You see that there are "professed Adventists" in the time of trouble. They are known as Laodiceans. But if you look above it says they are "Jews[Adventists] who say they are Jews[Adventists] but are not.
What that implies is that the 144,000 of Philadelphia are true Adventists. Is this is a name we are to give up? Clearly we are Adventists still in the time of trouble. Notice we are NEVER to be ashamed of this name. And this name is to borne through to the close of probation.
"Our institutions have taken a name which sets forth the character of our faith, and of this name we are NEVER to be ashamed. I have been shown that this name means much, and in adopting it we have followed the light given us from heaven...This distinctive banner is to be borne through the world to the CLOSE OF PROBATION." MS 15, 1896
There are many quotes which use the words "nominal Adventists" near to and in the time of trouble from SOP. That implies that there are true Adventists and this name is not to be given up.
You should be saying "he is not an Adventist which is one in the flesh, but he is an Adventist which is one in the spirit and heart" or perhaps "Hath God cast away his people? God forbid, for I am an Adventist". Or maybe "God can raise rocks to be Seventh Day Adventists". This name has meaning. We are the true Seventh Day Adventists while they have become "nominal Adventists" "Adventists who have not walked in the light" or "professed Adventists" "Offshoot Adventists" etc. To give up this name is like Paul giving up the name Jew, or Israel, or Abrahams seed. It's like us giving up the name Christian, or Reformer. We are the true Seventh Day Adventists brother. Don't give up the name. There is lots of support in SOP which shows the 144,000 are Seventh Day Adventists. Yours in Christ, David.
http://www.elijah144.com